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• "Dollhouse" Tv Series - 10 Reasons Joss Whedon Fans Should Be Nervous

  14 September 2008 14:16

  Okay, this piece of crap masquerading as journalism needs a point by point:

  1. There’s already a stoppage and they already reshot the pilot.

  Dollhouse is a new show and needs to make a good impression. Even if they make these changes, who is to say they won’t have to stop again?

  These changes were made *BY* Joss at *HIS* decision. The stoppage is to tighten up scripts. 24 is doing the exact same thing, yet nobody seems to consider that show doomed. Funny that.

  2. Fox killed Whedon’s last show Firefly early.

  This is the same network that axed Joss’s space western Firefly after only 11 episodes.

  ...And as Joss himself has said, there have been huge changes within the network itself since then that have made it a much better environment. They approved Dollhouse from only rough outlines of the first few stories, and spent a large amount on the sets already. Firefly also suffered from horrific scheduling problems, not showing the eps in the right order, etc etc.

  3. It’s hard to get people to watch good shows.

  Whedon’s likely to put out an intelligent show about humanity with a sci-fi bent, and the legions of people who only watch procedurals like House may not be up for that.

  People do watch the likes of Heroes and Terminator: SCC too, but a fair point.

  4. There is no UPN any longer to pick up the show if it gets axed.

  When the WB moronically decided to dump Buffy the Vampire Slayer, UPN swiftly snatched up the show and aired an extra two seasons (that just so happened to include the brilliant musical episode).

  The show only had two years left to run contractually anyway. Networks pick up and drop shows all the time - and Buffy was sadly never a huge ratings grabber. It’s a business boys, not a Batcave. ;)

  5. Eliza Dushku is awesome, but Fox also cancelled her cult-fave show Tru Calling.

  Clearly, Fox doesn’t know how incredibly awesome Eliza Dushku actually is.

  But they did know the ratings for the show were awful, which affects advertising revenues, etc etc. See above re: Business.

  6. Sounds like a series about American Girl dolls.

  The title is just terrible, and sort of misleading, unless your dirty mind takes you to a cathouse... in which case you are slightly closer.

  And "Buffy The Vampire Slayer" suggested a great show? "Angel" suggested a deep show about a vampire with a soul? Going by the title, "Firefly" was clearly a space western show about a bunch of people who became something of a family. Show titles suck in general. This is nothing new, or specific to Dollhouse.

  7. Fox decided to air episodes of Firefly out of order.

  Firefly was all over the map, making it beyond taxing for potential fans, even the most loyal, trying to follow the continuing storyline.

  And this is Dollhouse. A different show. Pay attention.

  8. Fringe debuted to lower than desired numbers.

  Sure it is a different show, but J.J. Abrams is a cult fave too, and both shows are getting special "limited commercial" treatment from the network.

  This one kind of killed its own argment within the first six words.

  9. Amy Acker’s a showkiller.

  Her most recent gigs have been on the end of Angel, towards the end of Alias, on the blink-and-you-missed-it Drive and on the short-lived October Road. She’s not totally to blame for their demise, but bad luck seems to be following her.

  The end of Angel? Three seasons. More than half of the shows life. Towards the end of Alias? The show was in the known-to-be-final season already. The other two shows were never doing so well. Remember: Coincidence is not fact, or evidence of anything.

  10. It doesn’t have Dr. Horrible’s NPH in it.

  No one can say no to watching the erstwhile Doogie in action... or for that matter Horrible’s adorable "good guy" Nathan Fillion. Maybe if one of these two makes a visit to the Dollhouse, some of their magic will rub off on the show.

  Who says the show needs it... and lets face it, Nathan will almost inevitably show up at some point.

• "Dollhouse" Tv Series - 10 Reasons Joss Whedon Fans Should Be Nervous

  14 September 2008 15:36

  It’s a huge amount of stupidity to say that Amy Acker is a show killer. She’s such a great actress.

  She was in THREE of the five seasons of Angel, and we all loved her!

  Alias was dead way before Amy Acker got there. After season 2, the show sucked so bad I don’t know why it took so long to cancel it. By the way, Amy Acker’s character was the only one added in the last season of Alias that was likeable.

  She has also gest starred in other shows which were not cancelled after her appearance.

  It just seems to me that the person who made this list didn’t have 10 actual reasons, so came up with this crap.

• "Dollhouse" Tv Series - 10 Reasons Joss Whedon Fans Should Be Nervous

  14 September 2008 17:24

  Amy Acker is amazing!!!