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Joss Whedon - About Buffy/Angel Future - Darkworlds.com Interview

Jesse Knight

Wednesday 25 May 2005, by Webmaster

BUFFY. Jesse Knight chats with Joss Whedon, the creator of BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER, ANGEL and the upcoming film SERENITY. In this, the second part of a three-part interview, Whedon discusses the future of BUFFY and ANGEL.

DARKWORLDS: I know that you love your actors unconditionally, and after watching BUFFY and ANGEL for so many years, it’s obvious that no one in your cast is ever better than when directed by you. What’s your trick in bringing out the best in them?

WHEDON: Well, first of all, I have an advantage - two advantages - one, I created the show so I understand it as no other director can; two, I’m everybody’s boss so they learn their lines. Actually they all have a pretty good track record of learning their lines anyway, but everybody’s minding their P’s and Q’s. But I think mainly it’s because when I do an episode, it is my intent to fall in love with every character again. And I don’t like a character to be in a show of mine without a moment that defines them. Be it a dramatic or comedic moment, it absolutely crystallizes them. And in the case of BUFFY, it was always I had to do the big episodes. In the case of ANGEL it was the opposite. And so in BUFFY I got the big moments because I was doing the pivotal episodes. In ANGEL, I got to do it in a more sly fashion. I got to just say, “What do I want to see these guys do that they’re great at?” because I was doing the sort of incidental episodes. I didn’t have the onus of importance, and I could really just cut loose. And at the end of the day, I’m also looking to push myself. I don’t just want to go there and phone in something, I want to try something creative. Every time, I want some new challenge. And for the actors as well. As James Marsters said, “If we don’t have the shit scared out of us at least once a season, we’re not getting it right.” So I give them the musical, I give them THE BODY where they really have to push themselves. Because I know they can and I want to as well, and it’s hard to ask that of them by somebody who’s just stopping by.

DW: Did you ever have a plot construction that you threw out for being too out there, or too challenging for you or anybody else involved?

WHEDON: No, I mean, I think there are times when we look back and think maybe we could have constructed something a little more elegantly. There’s been certainly things we wanted to pursue that we couldn’t because an actor left or a situation changed, but there was nothing where we said “Okay, this is just too wacky.” I mean, we did THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS, with ANGEL That was basically like, “Well, our guest actors (Christian Kane as Lindsey, and Julie Benz as Darla) are both unavailable for the last four episodes.” Lindsey and Darla were central to season two, and then they were gone. And we had four episodes left, and I said, “Can we do a four-episode gear-off? Can we just go to Oz?” And the answer was, “Why yes, sir, you can. Because you’re the boss.” And some people were sort of like “I don’t know,” some people were like, “Let’s do it!” But we went there.

DW: In your entire career as a storyteller, what are you most proud of?

WHEDON: In my entire career as a storyteller, what am I most proud of... I’m most proud of the fact that I was part of the wave of making the female hero something more than a footnote, or a heroine in disguise, or sort of a hapless person with martial arts skills, and for examining that character. If I was going to pick specifically, I wrote a musical one time. I’m all over myself about that.

DW: Are you, yourself, completely done with any future incarnations of BUFFY or ANGEL?

WHEDON: No, I don’t think so. There’re a lot of characters in that universe that are a.) very exciting, b.) very beloved, c.) played by people I really like, who d.) would actually like to play those parts again. I do believe that David and Sarah have moved on from those parts, but I think the universe is very rich, and there’re still stories to be told. And I haven’t let go of it at all. I’ve definitely taken a breather. I was in there for eight years, and I didn’t exactly come up for air.


12 Forum messages

  • C’mon Joss, give David and Sarah an "out of this world", "drop dead" script and I am sure they would re-consider bringing Buffy and Angel back to us fans!!!
  • Well then get on with it Joss!
  • I’m sure if David got a great offer, he’d consider - I know I would definitely watch anything with him in it!!!!!!!
  • I agree. I think David Boreanaz would return to the part if it were to look a little more appealing. He has said in the past that he would not like to return to the part of Angel unless the stakes were significantly increased. Give him a little more money. No offense to Mr. Boreanaz whom I love dearly, but I sincerely doubt he’ll be given a role like Angel ever again. If he chose to pass it up, he would seriously lose some of my respect.
  • He doesn’t want more moeny. He wants more fame. He’d only return if it was being released as a film in a cinema.
  • Has Whedon ever revealed the plot of how those last four episodes of season 2 would have gone if Kane and Benz had been avalible? I like the "what if...?" questions.
  • i also think they would both do it if joss would just actually try and write a good script.i mean he was talking about doing a spike movie and letting someone ELSE write the script.seriously.he ditched buffy and angel for firefly(firefly was great ofcourse)....and both his shows SUFFERED...not to mention the fans.if he would just find the damn time and actally give a crap(!)...he would come out with a fanatstic scrpit and etc.stupid joss.maybe greenwalt could do it! he kicks ass! but it wouldn’t be the same.my dream is for them both to do a huge BtVS and AtS flick! i really think SMG and DB would definitely do it if they were offered a kick ass script!man...i would seriously die happy!
  • Was the actual season 7 intended as that particular season or "the End"?
  • I think it would be too hard to do a Buffy or Angel movie and do justice to the fans and bring in new viewers, there’s just way too much back story for it to work. Joss, David and Sarah have given eight years of their lives to Buffy and Angel - don’t you think it’s fair that they should all be allowed to move on and do something else with their careers? I would love to see more from the Buffyverse and I am sure that when the time is right Joss will give us something, but he’s not going to write a script just for the sake of it. He’ll do it when he has a new story to tell. Joss is as passionate about these characters as we are, if not more so, and he’s not going to sell them short just because the fans are demanding a movie/tv show.
  • Ok in a minority of one here but I think the Buffy/Angel verse doesn’t need Buffy or Angel to be interesting. I always liked the supporting characters more anyway - Lorne, Faith, Wes (R.I.P), Willow and ok (ducks flying objects thrown by Bangles and other sections of the audience) the peroxide love god. There are also loads of subsidiary characters knocking around the Angelverse who could be resurected as supporting characters or bit parts in a movie set in LA - Groo and Gwen Raiden to name but a couple.

    This isn’t a two fingers to SMG and/or DB - they’ve worked their backsides off for seven and eight years respectively and deserve a shot at spreading their wings. Good luck to them. I think part of the issue with DB is that he’s a family man now and probably wishes to spend more time with his wife and very young son. Let’s face it playing the same role for seven or eight years is going to get dull - even an evolving character such as those in the Buffy/Angel verse.

  • come on i know buffy and angel are over but i (we)still want a steamy scene and a whole new love affair btw buffy and angel themselves just joss u have to write something stunning and breathtaking and they’ll both do it
  • Yes please, let it go now. Buffy & Angle’s relationship was schoolgirl idealized first love. The really interesting (not to mention hot) relationship was Buffy & Spike. Flawed, twisted, obsessive - i.e.real.