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Spike & Angel in "The Clicker Celebrates Guy Love"

Kelly West

Thursday 1 February 2007, by Webmaster

The Clicker Celebrates Guy Love As we head into the month of February, Valentine’s Day approaches and its gotten me thinking about love in television. In any given fiction-based TV show you’ll usually find various types of love. Most of the relationships you’ll find in TV are pretty traditional. Love among families, friends and of course, the romantic type of love that often carries the show season after season. I’m not going to discuss any of that here. This Clicker is all about “Guy Love.” No, not the kind of relationship you might find in a show like ‘Will and Grace.’ Guy-love is love between two male characters that is completely platonic.

What got me thinking about this topic was the “My Musical” episode of ‘Scrubs’ in which Turk and JD sing a duet called “Guy Love.” The hilarious song summed up their relationship perfectly. Turk and JD are two grown men who are like brothers but their relationship certainly has raised a few eyebrows over the years. They spend a ridiculous amount of time together and share all of their secrets almost as though they were 14-year-olds bunking together at summer camp.

After their duet, I started to think about some of the other characters in TV shows that share a similar type of relationship with one another. In researching this topic I came to the realization that this type of relationship is somewhat of a rarity in television. I was surprised by this considering how well it’s worked in few shows they’re featured in.

Before I get into the characters I define as having a “Guy Love” relationship, I should explain my personal criteria for what constitutes this type of relationship. The first point is that the relationship is between two men and is entirely platonic. The second is that the two characters are in fact, grown men. I could write pages about grade-school best friends in television. TV characters that are best friends only qualify for guy-love status if they are grown up and past college age. The behavior of the men in their guy-love relationship is often extremely adolescent in its own way. This brings me to my third point. The two characters can live grown-up lives with real jobs, their own living space and even a girlfriend or wife. It’s their behavior when they’re around each other - the rituals, the bickering and making-up, the over-sharing of personal information and mutual trust that defines the guy-love relationship.

In addition to Turk and JD from ‘Scrubs,’ here are some other examples of guy-love relationships in television:

Angel and Spike - ‘Buffy The Vampire Slayer’ and ‘Angel’

These two characters have definitely had their ups and downs in the 100+ years they’ve known each other and I certainly wouldn’t classify them as entirely guy-love material. After all, they spent a good portion of their relationship as enemies but after a recent rewatch of season 5 of ‘Angel’ I think it would be unfair to leave them off the list. Their bickering is reminiscent of children or perhaps an old married couple. There’s a side of them that hates the other because of their past but in the end, they’re sort of like brothers. Had the show continued past season 5, I believe their relationship would’ve driven the show to true greatness.

Joey Tribbiani and Chandler Bing - ‘Friends’

For seasons of the show ‘Friends,’ Chandler and Joey lived together as roommates. They played games together, watched free porn together, argued over stupid stuff but always made up. Chandler and Joey often acted like brothers and occasionally, like an old married couple. Chandler is often portrayed as the nagging wife in the relationship to which Joey usually falls into the act of the semi-clueless husband. Their relationship was one of many in the show but it slowly evaporated when Chandler fell in love Monica and moved out of the apartment.

Carl Carlson and Lenny Leonard - ‘The Simpsons

People have actually speculated on just how platonic Lenny and Carl are but as the show has never given enough information to out either one of them, I consider them just-friends. Best friends in fact as one of the characters is rarely seen without the other. In this relationship, Lenny is a bit more clingy than Carl but Carl has shown affection towards his friend on various occasions. Take for example the birthday cake he made Lenny shaped like his favorite barstool (Homer sat on it and ruined it but it was the thought that counted).

Honorable mentions go to:

Marshall and Ted from ‘How I Met Your Mother’ - they live together and have been friends for years. The two are transitioning into a more balanced friendship as they continue on the path to grown-up-hood but every once in a while they share the occasional guy-love moment.

Uncle Joey and Uncle Jesse from ‘Full House’ - they were brothers-in-law and close friends in the show. They got along like two men who’ve known each other their whole lives. Joey’s childishness and Jesse’s intense desire to always be cool often clashed but like every other character in the squeaky-clean ‘Full House,’ they always managed to work out any minor disputes they had by the end of the episode.

The concept of two male characters spending way too much time with one another isn’t new. You can find traces of it in classic TV shows like ‘The Odd Couple’ and ‘Starsky and Hutch’ but the dynamic really seems to have evolved quite a bit since then as we’re seeing it more and more in television.


2 Forum messages

  • Spike & Angel in "The Clicker Celebrates Guy Love"

    2 February 2007 01:35, by flora_reilly
    Here I go, aging myself in public, but I’m sure there are those out there who remember the fantastic duo of Lenny and Squiggy of Laverne & Shirley fame? Guy Love at its best.
  • Spike & Angel in "The Clicker Celebrates Guy Love"

    12 February 2007 23:25, by Anonymous

    Don’t forget General Hospital’s Sonny and Jason.

    They’ve been best friends since 1996, when former "golden boy" Jason Quartermaine suffered serious tree-induced brain damage and became biker bad boy Jason Morgan. Sonny Corinthos, a gangster whose former protoge had recently died of AIDs, took Jason under his wing and put him on the fast track to mob success - from errand boy to hitman to enforcer to co-owner in six years or less. Over the last decade (and some change), the two have shared lovers, a child (Jason was the dad on the birth certificate his brother the dad in terms of DNA, and Sonny the one who won out with the adoption papers), a best friend/love interest, saved one another’s lives, and managed not to run the business into the ground (that’s mostly Jason’s doing). They run everything - from relationship advice to kidnapping plots - past each other before they act, and they continually refer to one another as "brothers." Jason named his "son" (now Sonny’s adopted son) "Michael" after Sonny (that’s his real name). Sonny named his son "Morgan" after Jason. Despite the fact that there is no blood relationship, all of the kids call Jason their uncle and all of the adults recognize him as such, as will be the case with Sonny if (when) Jason has a kid. These two love each other (they even said "I love you" a couple of times) in a platonic way, bicker like an old married couple, come to each other for advice or just for reflection about everything, and have literally taken bullets for one another. If you’re looking for "Guy Love," you’re not going to find a better (albeit melodramatic) example than GH’s Sonny and Jason. Heck, they even had sex with one another’s sisters and still came out best friends!