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Friday 30 January 2004, by Anonymous : U people just take wots given to u and dont think twice about it. Spike and the first and also principal wood have just given the story more meaning only those with eyes can see and understand. Willow and xander and giles still play quite a big part if i dont recal. You no the whole xander getting his eye poked out, willow turning the potentials into slayers and giles catching a harbringers axe and inch from his face. You obviously dont understand the importance of looking outside the circle. Sincerely Xtreme Buffy Fan Wesley Wintum Quinton Travis Rupert Giles Price Sunday 29 February 2004, by VJ : wow...first off the last 3 seasons of Buffy were great...a big change from the usual "see villian-fight villian-kill villian" seasons. The First being the Season 7 Big Bad was genius...finally Buffy has to fight something she CAN’T use her powers against, and that in general Cannot be destroyed. 2nd, blaming James Marsters and the character Spike for what you think is the downfall of the show, is entirely disrespectul to him and Spike. They gave the show much more emotion and feeling than most other characters did. And Spike falling in love with Buffy was an awesome improvement in storyline. Spike character is complicated, hence all the backflashes, and he is basically a phenomenon, being that he does not fit the profile of all the normal vampires when they are first sired. Spike, and James, are not to blame for what you think is the show’s downfall. The only thing they are guilty of doing is livening the show and putting a lot of emotion into it.Tuesday 16 March 2004, by Anonymous : 4give me 4 my English (i’m French) but i think it’s been a long time since Spike became one of the main characters of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer". Do u really watch "Buffy.."?? i’m not sure!Wednesday 17 March 2004, by Anonymous : I do not profess to know everything about Buffy The Vampire Slayer, but what I do know is this: Spike did suffer for his sins as a non-souled Vampire, why else was he muttering mad, incoherent stuff in the school basement?! I believe that James Marsters did an excellent job in portraying a complicated character like Spike. The background on Spike, the flash-backs etc. were brilliant, giving the viewers an insight into a pretty shielded Vampire. We see that he didn’t jump straight into being a vicious killer, and that he did cling to a small amount of humanity, which if my memory serves me right was also protrayed in a great film called "Interview With A Vampire" And personally, your comment on his un-apologetic attitude to Principal Wood for killing his mother, please sit and think. Principal Wood’s mother was a Slayer, a mortal enemy of a Vampire, and Principal Wood did try to kill Spike. Would you apologise??!! I think that the information overload was good on Spike, because we didn’t really learn much about his past until the later series’, whereas we learnt almost everything about the other main characters right at the beginning. Personally I believe Spike is the kind of Vampire, every girl desires, and every guy wishes he could be!! Friday 2 April 2004, by abundantraymo : Hey, I kinda agree with u. I mean I think Spike had way too much air time in Season 7, and I think the "core four" with the exception of Buffy did NOT get enough. It’s rubbish to say we already knew everything about the characters because of earlier seasons, I mean would have thought that Willow would have gone evil at the end of Season 6 think about that! Oh also, I pretty much agree with what u said about Wood and Kennedy, also just like to say if Willow loved Tara so much that she would try to end the world when she died, why did she suddenly get with Kennedy??? (Even Alyson Hannigan had a problem with this and even complained to Joss, guess he didn’t listen). Also true about Andrew, I mean he is basically just an extension of Xander. SO in conclusion, I agree I think giving Spike so much air time, did kinda ruin the show, but I think other things contributed to it as well, I mean the "core four" stuff was exactly why, I mean couldn’t they have all gone to College, and just continued like they had in Season 1-3, hmm, guess we’ll never know!Wednesday 21 April 2004, by Wolverine68 : Had Joss been a good lad, and ended this show after 5 season when he should have, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Would we? It’s called desperation. The things writters & producers throw at us to keep a show going, when it is clearly fallign down hill. You can tie a rope on it, and hold it, but it is only going to stay for so long. So no, it is not Spike that killed Buffy. It is the lack of creative writting. Once all the good plots were palyed out, you leave yourself no where to go. Wednesday 21 April 2004, by Anonymous : Ok, whoa. I understand where this guy is coming from but man, I have a lot of problems with this article. First off, the theory that Spike as a main character took the show’s focus off of praising geeks is completely ridiculous. If you look back at "Fool for Love," you see Spike, pre-vamp, as what? A geeky poet who lives with his mother. Spike isn’t the "Fonz" who makes all the other kids look bad. HE’s a former geek who managed to change his image, somewhat of an inspiration to geeks everywhere if you ask me. Also, granted, season 7 was pretty bad but I never understand everyone’s problems with season 6. Season 6 was, IMO, one of the best seasons of BtVS simply because of the stark sadness it portrayed and it’s uniqueness compared to other seasons. It finally had the Scoobies facing something they’d never really had to deal with before: real life. Buffy battled taxes and bills instead of monsters, Xander went up against his fears of ending up like his family, and Willow struggled with addiction. The only problem I have with season 6 is Dark Willow’s characterization in "Two to Go." That could have been handled better. Monday 10 May 2004, by Anonymous : thats not fair to spike or james i loved that he got all the that air time becasue hes hot and can act in fact i like him a lot more than giles or xander.Wednesday 19 May 2004, by LightBlaze : I think that’s reading too much into this- the sole theme of Buffy is not about celebrating the uncool kids. That may be part of it, but mainly the show celebrates the timeless battle of good vs. evil; doing what’s right despite sacrifices and consequences. Also, it’s about fitting in- normal kids who do unnatural things every day and try to blend in. So to say that Spike ruined Buffy because he is a cool guy is ridiculous. He represented what Buffy stood for: acceptance of outsiders and redemption for bad deeds. Is Angel not also a cool guy character, all leather-coaty like Spike? Is Riley not the superficial-type popular guy? This article is very contradictory because they say that it’s all about accepting outsiders, yet they do not support the acceptance of Spike (an outsider) into the show’s very elite group (core four). Just because Spike is cool does not mean he isn’t an outsider as well. And to say that Fonzie ruined Happy Days is hilarious- he’s the signature character! TV series need variety in their characters- without it, shows would lose their multidimensionality and much of their audience.Wednesday 19 May 2004, by Anonymous : Well, there’s a lot of truth in that article. I think the previous post pretty much sums it up: "thats not fair to spike or james i loved that he got all the that air time becasue hes hot and can act in fact i like him a lot more than giles or xander." In other words, there was a lot of misconceived pandering to a specific fanbase who like to watch some actor with his shirt off, rather than concentrating on good storytelling. First Evil? Good idea, but not well handled, and there was too much time spent on inconsequential characters. Not that 6 and 7 were bad television by any means - there were some outstanding individual episodes - but with hindsight it would have been a better choice to go with the original ending for Season 5. Now *that* would have been memorable - and it would have been nice to see the series go out with a bang, and "Not Fade Away." Thursday 20 May 2004, by Illyria : Whatever, I only read the 1st paragrah and I refuse to read anymore, he soooooo did not ruin Buffy he’s what made it intresting. Him and Buffy so whoever wrote this can SHOVE IT!!! And I agree this is not fair to James.Sunday 23 May 2004, by Kaula : I want to start off by saying, SPIKE DID NOT ruin Buffy. It added a lot of interest for me, I wish he was on there more. He’s definatley one of the most likable characters for sure. Sounds like love and attraction are not something for you but most people like that kind of stuff. Fonz and Spike are totally different! The article was ridiculous and only 1 opinion!Monday 7 June 2004, by Anonymous : I wish people would stop writing articles on Buffy and Angel when they clearly don’t understand anything about them.Sunday 27 June 2004, by Anonymous : i’m agree with that, he has a lot of centre of attention in the season 7 and not just in buffy ...then ANgel..he have a lot of fans but...one thing is that he is a regular character and other thing he’s the pirncipal ...i started to get tired of him...but that doesn’t happen...Monday 5 July 2004, by Anonymous : This was written a while ago and I remember one of the buffy writers commenting on how who ever wrote it clearly has no understanding of the show whatsoever. I pretty sure it’s from one of the succubus club interviews.Friday 14 January 2005, by Bling : F*** OFF! For those of you who are dissing this article. You are the one who can’t see outside the box. The only reason you can’t see, what this article obviously says, is because you are loyal Buffy fanatics who can’t admit shit when they see it even if it was in front of them. One thing you had right on, just one thing, is that James Marsters isn’t the one to blame, it is all the stupid ass writers. He did his job great, it’s just that the script and material he got was soooo bad. BUT the writer of the article didn’t say shit about James Marsters. So WTF are you guys bitching about?! And what the article meant with Spike being good (before and after soul), is that it wasn’t reasonable, it was contradiciting and overdone. You may love it as much as you want, it just wasn’t reasonable, any of it. Buffy was made a slut the second she bended over literally to Spike. Willow; "ooh, I love and miss Tara", after a few ep she is with another girl. Whore! And the Wood thing, you all say if it was me "I wouldn’t apologize" just because he tried to kill you. BOO fucking WHOO, this guy has MURDERED HIS MOTHER! And all he gets is a few punches, and just because of it, Wood doesn’t deserve any apologiez? get bent. And the other thing you say is: "Nikki was a slayer and Spike a vampire, it is their job to kill one another". Well, BRAINIACS, you are not making any sense and you are contradicting yourselves. IF you argue Spike is good in s7 cause he has a soul, you can’t then go and say it was his job to kill the slayer (Nikii) therefor it is ok. That’s STUPID as hell. God you all pissed me of, cause you were so damn ignorant, naive and stupid. You would’ve seen that if you weren’t to blind, and btw I have seen all the series and was a fan of the first 5 seasons, so don’t start with "you don’t know what you’re talking about". Btw brilliant article! Friday 12 August 2005, by Miss Sunnydale 2005 : W.H.A.T.................................personally I think season 7 was fantastic. If you want a crap season.....and this is from a HUGE buffyverse fan.......watch season 4!! If you wanna talk crap then thats the crap that you should be talking about. I didnt like the whole buffy / riley / initiative thing and i think that the ’big bad’ adam was about as interesting as getting your eyeballs poked out. The only episode that I can say that I like from season 4 is restless...I cant think of an episode in season 7 that I didnt like. Anyway it’s says at the beginning of the article....original mission’celebrate the uncool outcasts of the world’. Spike was an outcast to the group and even to Buffy (most of the time) and in the words of Xander Harris.....what is cool!!!Tuesday 7 March 2006, by Anonymous : wow what an utter waste of time. in your outgoing ramblings you forgot to see that episodes like Fool for Love and Lies my parents told me show that Spike isn’t a cool punk but even more uncool than season one Xander. There is no such things as redemption for you can’t change what you did, saving one life doesn’t make up for one you killed. Your guilt is your to feel not to show to the world and get sympathy like Angel. As for Wood, Spike killed a slayer why should he apologise do slayers apologise to the family of demons they slay? Anyway Spike spared Wood on account that he had killed Nikki, while Wood was was trying to kill a changed man who had saved his life many times. I don’t think BTVS was ruined you apparently grew up and got boredWednesday 27 January 2010 : Ahhh, thank God someone hates or dislikes Spike as much as I! The most prominent question in my mind when I hear anything about Spike, is "why the hell is attempted rape being swept under the rug?" It’s not something you can just get over, even though Buffy tries to ignore the pain from it. Spike took all the attention away from one of the greatest lesbian couples of all time, a couple that helped how many girls feel comfortable with their sexuality, one that set a shining example of the value of honesty and trust in relationships, just so we could see some pasty, skinny guy with no shirt? Laaaame. Drusilla was the best part of Spike’s career on the show anyway. These comments are an anwser to this article : Why Spike ruined "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
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